Sunshine VFX pics + North American box office + new Collective member

Capa, before and after

Today, the SunshineDNA blog featured a pair of Cillian photos that first show a climactic scene as it was shot, then again after visual effects were applied for the film:

Cillian Murphy in Sunshine pre-vfx Cillian Murphy in Sunshine post-vfx
See larger versions of before and after; see other Sunshine stills

Sunshine's take

According to IndieWire.com, Sunshine did smashingly in its first weekend (20 July), earning an average of US$24,296 per screen in ten major American and Canadian cities and $242,964 overall. In wider release the next weekend, it did more modest business, dropping from #1 to #14 on the IndieWire chart, with $2,740 per screen. Not including this past weekend, Variety puts its North American gross at only $2,235,239. Sadly, the film still hasn't broken even. This may have something to do with the mixed reviews: Sunshine's aggregated rating at Metacritic has sunk to 64; there are many positive reviews out there, but also a fair number of pans.

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Melty_Girl
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Re: stingy marketing
Reply #14 on : Sat August 11, 2007, 14:35:06
It's true that word of mouth can help. Not to discount that factor for "28 Days Later", but it did very well in North America straight away. It made $10 million on its first weekend in the U.S., so the marketing here was clearly successful. Things only built from there, through advertising and word of mouth. It is a fan and critical favorite, is considered a classic of its genre, and will always be included in related discussions in the press, etc., etc. It's an established success.

In contrast, "Sunshine" hasn't hit the $3 million mark in its first three weeks, and it's sinking. Wah. You never know -- it could still end up becoming a cult hit in some way. But just like success feeds itself, failure feeds itself. If it doesn't break even (which it hasn't yet), that failure will impact budget decisions on marketing the DVD, reviews/coverage of the DVD, sales to cable movie channels, and its perceived place in movie history. But we'll have to see what happens... it's still too early to say.

I am very worried about the fate of "Watching the Detectives."
Last Edit: August 11, 2007, 14:37:33 by Melty_Girl  
The Automatik
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stingy marketing
Reply #13 on : Sat August 11, 2007, 11:22:33
In terms of Sunshine and WTD, I was surprised I haven't seen/heard more outside of Cillian communities and of course, this site. Surprisingly, TWTSTB played out in the 'burbs here in addition to a few downtown cinemas. I expected Sunshine to have a wider release, but it is only playing at one theater downtown.

When BoP was released, I told various people online when it was opening and playing in different cities so that they could go see it. Plenty of my online friends hadn't even heard of it, but they went to see it because I talked about it so much and they'd watched the trailers. Plus, they'd already seen and liked Cillian in other films.

I firmly believe that the success of movies like this can depend on word of mouth. People like Cillian and they will go see his movies if they know about them and they are playing in a theater that is relatively near to them.

So I think having a site like this is a great way for people to keep up with Cillian movie news and tell their friends about his upcoming projects even if the mainstream advertising is less than ideal. A great example is 28 Days Later which seems to be more popular than ever thanks to word of mouth and DVD rentals.
Melty_Girl
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Melty_Girl
Reply #12 on : Fri August 10, 2007, 16:45:29
Yes, and Fox Searchlight made the decision to move the North American release date up knowing full well that publicity opportunities in the press would be curtailed. My guess is that they probably had lowered expectations due to weak box office around the world this spring, and decided to minimize their losses by not spending too much on advertising and publicity. I did see a quote from an exec saying that they considered it a tricky film to market. Ultimately, rightly or wrongly, they made the business decision not to give "Sunshine" the support we would have liked to see it get. If they had wanted to give it a big push, they would have kept it on the calendar for the fall.

Sadly, the film doesn't seem to have turned things around via word-of-mouth... if it had done big business in its first few weeks here, you can bet the studio would have kicked in more advertising money to tell everyone about the hip surprise hit of the summer. But unfortunately, ticket sales have not been brisk enough for that. "Variety" now shows that it fell off 64% last weekend. Of course, it's a vicious cycle -- if it had had more advertising, maybe more people would have gone to see it. But still, if it had been a sleeper hit, they would have kicked in more ad money in to take advantage.

This is not the news we want to see, but... there it is. Cillian's latest, beautiful film, whose progress many of us have followed obsessively for two years, didn't end up doing well financially in its theatrical release.
Lilith
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Reply #11 on : Fri August 10, 2007, 15:22:50
Like Pierspaul has pointed out, the lack of advertising resulted at least in part from moving the release date up. Remember it wasn't supposed to come out until September. Magazines line up their advertising and features months ahead of time, and when the decision was made at the END OF MAY to release this in JULY, there wasn't much time to do anything.
Painter_Lady
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Re:
Reply #10 on : Thu August 09, 2007, 18:57:02
Ooops. Sorry about the spoiler post.
Bonnie
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Sunshine Limited Releases
Reply #9 on : Wed August 08, 2007, 16:49:55
I agree with the other posters here, re: limited release, etc. Even here in the DC area which is known for screening lots of indie and foreign films, it had only very limited releases and no TV or radio advertisement; in fact, I don't remember seeing a newspaper ad. I would love to see Cillian in WTD, but have neither seen nor heard anything on its release since the Tribeca Film Festival. What gives w/the stingy marketing?
Melty_Girl
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Re: SPOILERS
Reply #8 on : Wed August 08, 2007, 15:15:33
Anonymous, you raise a very good point about spoilers here.

Folks, we can't assume that everyone has been able to see "Sunshine" yet, and should warn when we're about to give away major plot details.
Anonymous
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Reply #7 on : Wed August 08, 2007, 14:34:12
Damnit. SPOILERS DIRECTLY IN THE COMMENT BELOW ME! Be careful when scrolling down! First someone spoils Disco Pigs for me last week, and now this :(
Painter_Lady
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Reply #6 on : Wed August 08, 2007, 08:07:35
I live in a one-cinema town (25 miles from any other theatre) and my daughter works there. The owner reads the reviews and will not get a movie that is controversial or panned. Sunshine didn't even show here.
I only wish Danny Boyle had made the Pinbacker episode more realistic and logical rather than "spooky". I think this is what critics couldn't accept about the film. The non-obsessed regular type filmgoers don't have time during the film to sort that out. On the other hand, I thought it got interesting when Capa found out there was someone else onboard. but that's just me.
The other thing I was disappointed in was the final scene in space... The FXV shown on the site today. I just couldn't help thinking that it should have been done like the Armageddon reference in the Bible to nuclear war, that before they hit the ground, their flesh would fall from their bones. As much as I want to see Cillian, I couldn't buy him being able to withstand that much heat energy in his clothing and his own skin, and for soooo long. But darn if Danny Boyle didn't even ask me what I thought!!!
Maybe they didn't want to sink even more money on the advertising. Sad, because it was a beautiful film.
Melty_Girl
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Re: Marina
Reply #5 on : Tue August 07, 2007, 23:27:06
Marina, I think you're right... weak marketing probably has a wider effect than mixed reviews.
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